Quote from Mackie The Staggie :

ITV commentators really do my head in....heroic defending from John Terry??? He was caught under the high ball, outpaced and then failed to stop it going over the line.

I'm I missing something in this, really can't see where they are coming from on that one.

Completely agree. I wouldn't be at all saddened to see Terry get an injury. He's far to slow and gets caught out time and again.

Clive and Andy are the worst commentators on the telly. Cant stand them.

It was offside anyway, so justice was done

Quote from Yuri Laszlo :

but yours is a much more mysterious case, given we don't know whether you support a team that rivals the one Ronaldo used to play for.

I support Liverpool.

The fact the Ronaldo used to play for Man Utd has nothing to do with anything. I have a lot of respect and admiration for many Man Utd Players.

I despise the man for many reasons, including the fact that he took diving and cheating to a new level when he played here, he's arrogant, petulant and selfish. When playing for Portugal he struts around like his teammates are not worthy of playing alongside him. He's the epitome of everything i hate about the modern day footballer.

Messi on the other hand is also super talented and very rich but still appears to be a very humble man.


Not sure why you're bringing Carragher into this conversation. He's everything Ronaldo isn't. Not smug in the slightest, a real down to earth team man. Not the most talented guy, but always gives 100%.

I bet at half time Carra is listening to his manager and motivating his team mates, unlike Ronaldo who has taken to changing his hairstyle during the break! His vanity know no bounds. I've seen it all now

Quote from baSh0r :

It's a shame the physics are so terrible else i would be totally wet now.

Sad but true

Fear not! Assetto Corsa should save the day...

Quote from pmd9409 :

driver swaps will not be.

f*&^745£$%!!!!!

Quote from Senninha25 :

When he doesn't score, everyone slags him off. When he scores (twice), everyone slags him off. I guess you can't please everyone in this world.

Why do you think that is?

He's the biggest wanker in world football. It doesn't matter how talented he is, or whether he scores or not, nothing can prevent him from being a utter prick of a man.

Bloody hell, Robben passed the ball to a team mate and tracked back to defend, both in the space of 5 mins. Is he feeling alright?

Quote from vipex123 :

and Caroll showing that once again he cannot score with anything other than his head

lol, what? I'd suggest actually watching football sometime.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwrrQWyOMGs

2 out of 9 for Liverpool last season with his head. 1 out of 2 for England with his head.

Quote from CSF :

What in the name of goodness is a holding midfield attack position?

You gotta love Blueflame

Quote from BlueFlame :

Kuyt is not past his best, but even if he was he's still better than De Jong and Van Bommel combined.

Oh come off it. I was a huge fan of Kuyt at Liverpool. One of my favorite players and I was very sad to see him leave, but he is undoubtedly past his best. Well past his best.

How you can say he's better than 2 CM's i have no idea...that's like saying Suarez is better than Agger Comparing players in different positions is pointless.

De Jong is a very good player anyway. No idea why you dont rate him.


On the subject of the Dutch... Robben must be the most selfish players I've ever seen. Being selfish is fine if you're banging them in no stop, but Robben isn't and it's frustrating as hell to watch.

You have my sympathy. I know what it's like to have a parent die out of the blue like that.

Best wishes to you and your family Kev.

Quote from NSX_FReeDoM :

They claim its the most advanced. But the entire engine still feels off.

pCARS claim to have the best physics engine on the market... Yet it's a complete joke at the moment.

rF2 may feel a bit off, but it's way ahead of CARS at this stage. I would also argue that rF2 has the best tyre model of any sim at the moment. I would fully expect Assetto Corsa to take that crown though.

Quote from PMD9409 :

http://www.virtualr.net/iracin ... xploit-causes-controversy

As much as the 2FMSH is a load of crap, VirtualR trying to make a story out of it is a pretty low blow.

Quote from DeKo :

LFS, with maybe a few of iRacing tracks (at least they manage 1 thing properly) plugged into the IR MP service, with all the braindead Americans removed, would make me very happy.

LFS, nKPRo, Assetto Corsa (it's obviously gonna be good to drive, right? ) or rFactor 2 plugged into the iR MP service would all be much better alternatives to iRacing as things stand.

It's funny that after all these years, the thing i criticized most vociferously in the beginning, the MP service aspect, turns out to be the only bit of iRacing that i like.

The driving aspect is a massive disappointment. The NTM is just as bad as the OTM. Worse in several respects. The FFB in the cars with the NTM is rubbish. I just don't want to spend time on track any more.

Motegi is the first road course i didn't bother buying, and i wont be re-subbing when this one runs out. My time with iRacing is coming to an end.

Assetto Corsa and rF2 may not have the MP service, but i'm sure i'll find a league or two to race in and actually get back to enjoying driving sim cars that make some sense again.

Favorite shows I've been to

Iron Maiden at Donnington in '88
Metallica and AC/DC at Donnington in '91
Ozric Tentacles at The Lemon Grove, Exeter in '92
The Orb at Glastonbury '93
The Prodigy at Glastonbury '95
Opeth at Bristol 2011

Quote from vipex123 :

.. although I haven't actually seen the official roster yet. If Heskey is there again I will rage.

This is the original list, though Lampard is now out, to be replaced by Henderson. Not sure on any other changes, but Heskey isn't one of them for sure


Goalkeepers: 1. Joe Hart (Manchester City), 13. Robert Green (West Ham), 23. Jack Butland (Birmingham City).

Defenders: 12. Leighton Baines (Everton), 5. Gary Cahill (Chelsea), 3. Ashley Cole (Chelsea), 2. Glen Johnson (Liverpool), 14. Phil Jones (Manchester United), 15. Joleon Lescott (Manchester City), 6. John Terry (Chelsea), 18. Phil Jagielka (Everton).

Midfielders: 19. Stewart Downing (Liverpool), 4. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), 8. Frank Lampard (Chelsea), 16. James Milner (Manchester City), 20. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), 17. Scott Parker (Tottenham), 7. Theo Walcott (Arsenal), 11. Ashley Young (Manchester United).

Forwards: 9. Andy Carroll (Liverpool), 21. Jermain Defoe (Tottenham), 10. Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), 22. Danny Welbeck (Manchester United).

Quote from tristancliffe :

Most people can't drive, or are using unrealistic setups, or don't drive sportsmenlike, or drive the wrong way and crash.

Not my experience at all. Neither in the CTRA servers here back in the day or on iRacing.

Thousands of races with people that most certainly can drive, do drive in a sportsmanlike manner, and don't drive the wrong way and crash.

The times I've had to share the track with a complete idiot or a deliberate wrecker over the last 5 years or so can be counted on one hand. Two at a push.

Quote from DeKo :

The 2 aren't exclusive, I watch both road and oval and absolutely enjoy both, I'm sure plenty of people do.

This.

Quote from DeKo :

So I won my Indy 500 split at the weekend, was an unbelievable race. Felt good to do it also with a setup that I made myself, which was far from the quickest car in the race but I still managed to win. 0 inc too for 500 miles is OK.

Grats DeKo! Very impressive.

I've not even tried the Caddy yet! Only got back to driving iRacing this week, and I can't tear myself away from the V8. A car I used to hate with a passion has now become my favorite car in the sim.

Quote from CSF :

That Liverpool team got to the final on defensive performances. They parked the bus home and away v Juventus

They parked the bus after going 2-0 up at home against Juventus! You can't honestly compare that to a team that doesn't even attempt to attack for 80 odd mins.


Defending a lead is one thing.. Playing for a 0-0 in a final is completely different

Quote from CSF :

and Liverpool of 2005

Liverpool 2005 might well have been low on quality, but at least they actually attacked! (Milans second and third goals were on the counter) It was a shocking first half, but at least Liverpool went forward.

Liverpool didn't park the bus until it was 3-3


Chelsea last night did absolutely nothing until Bayern scored. Not at any point up till then did they look like they wanted anything but a penalty shootout.

It wasn't the strongest Chelsea lineup, but it was still one of the most expensively assembled teams in the world!

Quote from Senninha25 :

Am I right in saying that Petr Cech should get full credit for saving Chelsea's bacon in that final?

You are! Top player and top man Cech... I have a lot of respect for him.

There really is no justice in football

Chelsea in the first 88 mins was the most negative performance in a European final since Steaua Bucharest in 85. Absolutely pathetic.

Still, Bayern should have taken their chances.

Great race!

Really nice drive from SVG.. epic save towards the end. Very lucky not to get caught up in that crash, that was a hard hit!

V8 supercars again showing why it's the best motorsprt series in the world.

It's Alpha, It's buggy, the servers are a pain in the backside to join at the moment... and it's the most fun i've had in many years of gaming.

Open world, sandbbox survival with Zombies...just perfect.

The fact that Bohemia are going to include this as part of ArmA CO in the next patch says it all. It should get some serious polishing in the near future.